and mitt romney going to the naacp is not going to win him votes in the black community, but as lee allen said, sometimes spent time showing up. he's got to show up, but go to the urban league and the black chamber of commerce, other places besides the naacp. >> dave: as close it a political slam-dunk, going to being to 2000 the closest the republican has been bush 2004, 11% to john kerry's 88%, other than that and that's even a blowup. but receipt now, you've got obama at 91% and romney at 4%. does he have any chance with that african-american vote? >> well, i hope so because i don't think that republicans are the answer, but i think that they are an answer. you know, shirley put it this way, you do not vote for the party, you vote for the individual. blacks are not brain washed or bamboozled as-- >> and thank you, thank you. >> and you know, we both are interest not the party. we have chosen johnson over goldwater, a very good thing, but the abolitionists of old have become the obstructionists. and they warn against two water season. >>, but santia-- >> let me finish, he says that this